Astral Travel, Ghosts, & Herbal Alchemy: Navigating the Empath Journey with Nadine

SPEAKER_01 0:02

Welcome to Simply Soul Awakenings, the space where the seen and unseen meet. I'm your host, Shanna, a lifelong medium and energy worker here to help you navigate the spiritual realm. Whether we're diving into current collective energy, channeling wisdom from spirit guides, or exploring the metaphysical, anything from ghosts, past lives, astrology, star family, and beyond, this is your home for spiritual expansion. Today I have Nadine, who is a holistic hub member, and of course, she is a gypsy sew vendor. She will be at the upcoming fair with her business, Butterfly Spirit Creations, in McAllister, and has a variety of beautiful things to share. Hey Nadine, how are you doing? I'm doing good. How are you? I'm good. Of course, this is all pre-recorded and stuff, and it's a really rainy day today, so we may hear some thunder and and rain in the background, but that'll just be kind of soothing for everybody, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:03

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:05

Yeah. So um let's just kind of dive into stuff. Let's start off with your spiritual journey. How did that begin for you?

SPEAKER_05 1:17

At a crystal shop, and it was just like a 360 of like I need to work on myself to do this. I need to, and I just I don't know, it felt complete, if it makes sense. I've been to church, I've been to different places, and this is the only thing that has ever made sense to me, if if that makes sense. Oh yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

It's an expansion from everything else that we've already learned on the religious part, right? I feel like.

SPEAKER_05 1:53

Yes, exactly. Because it always seemed like something was missing. And I was like, okay, well, I don't mind going to church. It's just not, you know, not my thing personally. Not that I don't believe. It's just I didn't fit in. So I end up I don't know why, but I ended up at that shop, and ever since then it was like divine intervention.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

Don't you think those things always happen? Divine intervention. You meet the right people, you go to the right place, and you're like, no way that that just randomly happened. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:28

Yes. And it growing up, our mom was you know, she never went to church, but she was always like, pay attention to your dreams, you know. Um, when somebody would pass, you could hear like the rocks throwing out the windows, because she grew up in Germany. So it was like she always had that part, but she never talked about it very often.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

Right.

SPEAKER_05 2:52

So it just made a lot of sense and it all just clicked once I started exploring um this side, and it was like freeing because I didn't feel like I was going crazy when I could see things that weren't there or like hear things that actually weren't there, you know. So and it it felt um also because like me and my mom when she left this world, we didn't have a good connection. But when she passed, it like it all came together through the spiritual journey that I went down because I would I felt like I was really broken with everything. So like feeling her and knowing that she's with me and um I got to do a little working with her and with her mom and her mom's mom. So it was it it definitely helped me more than I can say.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Right. How long ago did the all that begin for you?

SPEAKER_05 3:59

Back in, I want to say it was 2021, I wanna say. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

Yeah, so yeah, it's about five years, so that that's quite a bit of time already that you spent on it and diving into everything and and it isn't amazing how it changes and evolves over time.

SPEAKER_05 4:21

It it does. It's like I I don't even know. Like even my so I have an oldest daughter, she's 21, and she was like, I've seen all versions of you, mom. She goes, This has been yet the best version of you. So I'm like, I'm glad it's just a different type of connection that you know I have with myself, but also to have with them to realize the things I was doing wrong, you know, the mistakes I've made to the trauma that I was carrying, not just my trauma, but like all the family's trauma. So it was really eye-opening on how much we do carry things from our past and our mother's or father's past as well.

SPEAKER_01 5:09

Right. Yeah, we carry that within our psyche and our DNA, everything, which is really kind of mind-boggling us when you get to thinking about that stuff. And then us doing the healing part, it I mean, it's really you're healing, you're not just healing yourself, you're healing generations. Even though your mother's past, it's still healing generations so that your kids or your grandkids don't have to go through that.

SPEAKER_05 5:38

Exactly. And that's what made me very determined. It was like I don't want them to carry the things that I've carried my whole life, you know? Right. Because it's taken me down a dark path at the beginning, because I didn't know how to handle all the trauma and you know, we're not taught how to handle all the trauma. Um so I want them to have that fresh start. So I was like, okay, it stops with me. This is it, no more.

SPEAKER_01 6:11

Right, exactly. And like you said, your kids could see the difference in you. I had the same experience in that I used to not be a patient person at all. And my kids were like, Oh, you you you're like different now. You're so much more patient than you ever were before. You know, they were like, Where was that person when we were living at home?

SPEAKER_05 6:33

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

Right.

SPEAKER_05 6:44

And my daughter's like, You weren't that patient with us when we were younger. I said, Trust me, I know. I was like, I'm learning from my mistakes. So I said, I'm very, you know, trying to be more mindful, because like with her, I feel like I was still very stern, and then I had her and it was like a another whole three sixty like a slap in the face, like you can't you can't be that stern. Like that's not okay either. You gotta be more loving, you know. Um so with her it was like that was another eye eye opening, and I was like, oh gosh, like my grandmother when I've sat and like you know, connected, and it was always that they had to be very stern because growing up in Germany, you know, you not just had to deal with the Nazis at the time, they also had the Cold War and they were so very stern.

SPEAKER_01 7:48

Right. So now and that was kind of what was passed o on from one generation to the next, right? Is you told the line, you did this, you did things this way and only this way, and there's no other way to do them.

SPEAKER_05 8:03

Yes, exactly. And it was like this is this is how I want it, this is how it needs to go, and it wasn't like you didn't listen to anybody else's stuff, and it was that was really eye-opening a lot, because I was like, Oh, I'm I'm doing that too. Like, oh, that's not very nice, you know.

SPEAKER_01 8:21

Like, oh you stop that too, so yeah, uh yeah, it's amazing when you open up your peripheral vision to be able to see all that, and you go, Oh, I need to shift and change that too, because that isn't where we want our future generations to be at and everything.

SPEAKER_05 8:41

Yes, yeah, yes, exactly. And it's it's crazy because it's like as adults we take our mental health days and things like that, but then we expect our kids just to keep going and not have those days too. So that was really that was really eye-opening for me as like and I think it's because of all the spirit the spiritual path that I've been down for a while now that that's helped me realize that because without it I don't think I would be where I'm at today.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

Right. Exactly. Yeah, and I'm sure that led into your business and everything too, right?

SPEAKER_05 9:22

Yes, yes. So I started my business, um, you know, making candles, and that was just like and I don't I can't even tell you why I started making candles. It was just like one day it was like, oh, let me get stuff to make candles.

SPEAKER_01 9:37

Um was this before or after you started your spiritual awakening?

SPEAKER_05 9:41

It was a little after.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 9:44

So I think it was just about 2022 that I started making candles. Uh-huh. Um and I did some self-love and calming candles. Well, I started all that, um, and I've been making oils and sprays and everything because you know, I I've dealt with all that. I've been through um abusive relationships, not just personally, but also with, you know, either friends or family members. Um, so I wanted something that would help, you know, because I I dealt with really bad anxiety. So that was the whole reason behind my protection spray was to help kind of calm myself down.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

And my eyes are even showing me right now that the stuff that you were making were help was helping people to heal on a soul level. Was that something that you put into your intention?

SPEAKER_05 10:49

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 10:51

So when I would when when I would make stuff, I would play the frequency on my phone um when I would make the candles. So as I was making the wax and stirring it, I would play the frequency in the background for that intention. Um and everything that I put into, I put intention into all everything that I make. And I do it intuitively. I don't know what I'm making until after I'm done making it a lot of times. Um just because I feel like it's either meant for somebody else that I'm supposed to be meeting, or it's just to help heal a part of me that I haven't got to yet. Um, and that was the reason behind my business was to to help myself and not just help myself, but to help others, because I've always felt this deep calling of I'm here for a bigger purpose than myself.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

Right. Yeah, I understand that. That I I've had that same feeling ever since I was a little kid. And then to finally figure it out is is is awesome, isn't it? And and I feel like there's so many parts, you know, it's not just you making the the candles or the you know, the essential oils. I feel like it just continues to grow and expand in so many beautiful ways, right?

SPEAKER_05 12:16

Yes, yes, exactly. It's it's led me down an interesting path of meeting people and expanding and opening up more and also seeing parts um in other people that I needed to heal in myself.

unknown 12:35

Right.

SPEAKER_05 12:36

You know, so it's not just helped me, it's helped others, and that's what I'm more grateful for, even though I know I need healing. I'm like, I love the fact that I was able to help somebody say another day or make themselves feel better, you know, or see something that they weren't seeing because I wish I had more of that growing up, you know. So I always want to help, even though sometimes I know I need to leave, I gotta let people learn on their own, or you know, just do my little part and then leave it alone. Sometimes it's it's a little hard.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Right. It is. It's hard to watch somebody else go through the growth, especially if it's someone that you love and care about. Because you're like, well, that's their lesson, that's their soul growth. I can be here to support them and energetically and to give them advice or tools to help them on their journey, but I can't do it for them. And that's really hard. That's yeah. Yeah, so these products that you um that you put together are so intuitively made um with everything that you do. It's so ingrained in in your healing process and everything, right?

SPEAKER_05 13:58

Yes, and it it's crazy how it comes together because I feel like I go crazy half the time because everyone's like, Well, did you look this stuff up? No, no, I just um I'm doing what spirit tells me to do. That's I've I'm learning better to listen to spirit because if you don't listen, they won't leave you they won't leave you alone.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

Right. Or you repeat the lesson over and over again. Like, I told you you need to do this, not that, because otherwise, you know, you're just not clearing the energy out, or you're not, you know, completing that healing session or peeling back the layer that we need you to peel back or whatever it is, right?

SPEAKER_05 14:45

Yes, it's and it and it's crazy because it's like some of the stuff that I've I've made, you know, too. I've sat and cried with it because I'm like, oh okay, that I I really needed that, or you know, gave it to somebody else, and I've seen them in tears, and I'm like, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to make you cry. And they're like, No, I really needed that. And I'm like, that just makes me feel really grateful that I was able to help somebody or somebody trusted in me to make them something um intuitively or you know, pick down one of my statics.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

So to be the instrument in their healing process, right?

SPEAKER_05 15:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:25

Yes. Yes, because that's all I want, you know, is I want people to feel better. I want them to heal and see that there's more to life than to be, you know, like beating yourself up or going down the dark path of where you no longer want to be here or you know, just things to that nature. It's like I just want them to see what I've seen in myself when I was going through that. Like there's there's more to life.

SPEAKER_01 15:58

Right. Exactly. So along with the the essential oils and the candles, I know you have uh even more stuff at your booth. Uh what all what all do you offer at your booth?

SPEAKER_05 16:13

Oh gosh, I offer a lot of different things. Right. I also do um gym like bracelets or necklaces. I also make um like broomsticks with gemstones and selenite on there, and I use those for like clearing because you know, every time we meet somebody or every time we're out, that's an exchange of energy. Right. And we don't always want all energy attached to us. Right. Um so those are to hang above the door, you know, so as you walk in it helps clear some of that away. Um, so I have those, I have some little ancestor jars that I was called to make um where people can put it together to honor the ancestors because they're part of our journey too. Right. You know, um, they have a big part, and then we'll be one day we'll be those ancestors on somebody's, you know, altar or tabletop, um, wherever they decide to put us. So car fresheners, yeah, and then teas too. I've done some teas, you know, whatever I I've like a menstrual tea, I think is one of my best ones. I've dealt with really bad menstrual cramps my whole life, and I can tell you this is the only thing I can take that I don't feel my stuff coming on, and I'm like, oh what a relief.

SPEAKER_01 17:45

And it's amazing what herbs can do for our body, isn't it? And then if you do them with intention, I feel like it amplifies um the the herb the herbs that you use for teas or tinctures or whatever you might use them for.

SPEAKER_05 18:03

Yes, yes, and I and I love it. I mean, it's helped me so much.

SPEAKER_01 18:07

Like it's connecting with nature. I mean, a woman's period is nature, it's natural. We don't need some man-made crap to put in our body that says it's gonna make it better.

unknown 18:20

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

Nature made that stuff for us.

SPEAKER_05 18:24

Yes, yes, and anytime I've taken medication, I've gotten the worst side effects of medication. So, and I I again this was intuitively made, and then I looked at I did look the stuff up because I'm like, well, with herbs that were ingesting, you know, yeah, I like to be a little more cautious.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

Right.

SPEAKER_05 18:42

But it was everything that was needed, and I was like, Okay, thank you, Spirit.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

Like I find the same thing. Something had come across my mind, oh, you need this herbal supplement, you know, pill form or tea or or whatever, right? And I'm like, okay, but why do I need it? So I'm such a student. I'll I'll look it up, like you said, and look up all the properties of it. And I'm like, yes, yes, and yes. Okay, I mean, I believe you, spirit, but I also want to know why you want me to take this.

SPEAKER_05 19:14

Exactly. You want to know the why behind things. And I'm I'm this I'm the same way. So I have I've learned to listen and I just do gosh, I make whatever they tell me to. Like there's no, you know, I mean, there's no rhyme or reason. I just if one day this is what they want me to make, like um right now I am currently working on a I got this um silicone, but it's like a top for a table. But I'm gonna do an energy mat with it. Oh. So Yeah, I was like, okay, well, I wanted to do some more things and I was like, I need something to help fully clear, you know, when I'm doing energy work, or if um, because usually on Wednesdays I'll do like a TikTok with like clearing or um energy work on there. Um, so I was like, well, I don't want to carry, you know, everybody's stuff.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

Right.

SPEAKER_05 20:16

Um I don't mind clearing it, but it's not something I want attached to me. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

I've started working on that, and I just got in my copper and um so is it gonna be kind of like an organite mat or something along those lines? Okay, yes.

SPEAKER_05 20:33

Yes, so it has different crystals right now. I got cell knight and tourmaline and labdrite and tiger's eye, and then I'm gonna do a layer of that. Um, so I've been slowly making that, and I'm just you know, Spirit tells me to leave it alone for a while, so I was like, okay, I'll just put it off to the side, and I've been adding little by little to it of what they tell me to do.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

Right. Ooh, I can't wait to see how it turns out. I bet it turns out beautiful. What about sacred geometry? Have you started working with sacred geometry yet?

SPEAKER_05 21:10

I have not.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Okay, I think that might be part of your expansion there because they were showing me symbols for your mat.

SPEAKER_05 21:19

Oh, I'm gonna have to write, I'm gonna write that down.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Yeah.

unknown 21:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 21:24

I do have a book on it.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Um but I bet you shelved it because that you weren't ready for it yet, huh? That happens a lot. Yeah. I will pick up stuff and I'm like, oh, this is cool. And then my brain goes, No. It's very comes six months later, okay, pick that book up again. And my brain goes, Okay, now we can input the uh the the information there.

SPEAKER_05 21:54

Yeah, exactly. It's funny because I was like, I have all these books on like healing. And um was it the 100th shocker system that I started reading and then it was like okay put it down I was like oh okay like I just started but okay I'll just leave it so I was like I know I'll get back to it because it's funny it's like some of the books I've I've had sitting on my bookshelf right here for a while and then I'll pick it up like okay this is what I need to do now.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Yeah, I'll I have some books that I mean because usually whenever I sit down with a book because I'm an avid reader, I mean I'll go through it within a few days, right? But I find that there are some books that have so many downloads in them, like whenever it has stuff like sacred geometry or light language or you know what I mean? Kind of these deeper layers and stuff. I'll find that spirit spirit likes to wake me up at like, you know, two o'clock in the morning and go, Hey. Why don't you pick up that book now? And I'm like, okay, fine, but please help me go back to sleep. And I will, I'll read it for like 30 minutes and out conch I get all right because I got the download and then I had to process it in my sleep or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 23:19

Like it's like here. I know it's crazy how spirit does that. Or like sometimes when I'm out and it's like, okay, well, go do this. And I'm like, do I really do that? That's in front of everybody. They're like, nope, you go do that. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Yeah, the great thing about light language is once you start sing start talking it and everything, all of a sudden it will just start flowing out of you. And you look around, you're like, crap, I'm in Walmart. Really? And I'm speaking light language. Thanks a lot. People are gonna think I'm crazy. I'm in a small town, you know.

SPEAKER_03 23:59

Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 24:00

I'm like, I'll tell people something and they're like, oh, I'll feel like a crazy person, and then they'll come back later on, they're like, Nee Dean, need, need, and guess what? Guess what? Guess what? Here's let me send you a video of this. And I'm like, okay, that makes so much sense. That's why they kept saying, you know, the carpet. And I'm like, Right. What do you mean with the carpet? They're like, well, it's flipped over.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

Okay, well what about it?

SPEAKER_05 24:25

Yeah. What about it? Like and then they found what was underneath it, and that's what was supposed to be found. So I was like, oh, okay, well, thanks, spirit. Made me feel like I was a crazy person at first, and the person's looking at me like I'm insane.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

Oh yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_05 24:49

Me too. I love how it's how spirit guides, and you know, when you follow through how much you know it does help somebody, or you know, um like a crazy person at first, you understand why they're telling you to do what you're doing.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

So I'm like, But we know we're not crazy. Like I have a friend of mine that we used to when we first started our like really deep diving, you know, into stuff, and we go, so this is gonna sound weird. That that's how we would start our sentences, like every time we talk to each other. And now I have people that come up to me at the fairs and they go, This is gonna sound weird. And I just look at them and go, I can promise you, you can't come up with anything that's going to sound weird to me. Like, there's nothing out there that I, you know, am going to think is weird or strange at all. It's it's just not exactly.

SPEAKER_05 25:41

I'm the same way because I'm like, you know, I fully committed to, you know, this side of me. So I'm like, mm-hmm. You can't surprise me if what's said what needs to be said needs to be said, or like I'm like, okay, like I've just I've learned, I'm still learning just to be a paper airplane in the sky and just going with the wind.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

Oh, that's a wonderful way to visualize that. Because you may loop-de-loop. You may begin to nosedive.

SPEAKER_05 26:14

Yes, yes. So I've learned that the past year now, uh well, not even a year. Um, everything was spiraling, and I was like, okay, spirit, I give up. I'm done. I'm I'm not gonna try to control this part anymore. And then everything just started flowing through, and I was like, okay, I'm just all they kept showing me was a paper airplane flying in the sky. So I was like, okay, I'm just a paper airplane in the sky going with the breeze. Like, that's all I can do.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

And they will do that. And you will, you'll feel that spiral, and you try to control it, because I know I'm a very controlling person. I mean, I feel like that kind of comes from life experiences of like being a single mom and stuff like that. Like you had to just have your crap together, right? So you you become very controlling, and spirit's like, no, it's not gonna work that way anymore. And you're like, but I want it to, I really, really want it to.

SPEAKER_05 27:11

This is how I wanted it to be done. I've learned for me for that control, it was because I didn't have control over the things that happened to me in life. So at home is what I could control. So I was really OCD. I dealt with really high anxiety. So I was like, and then they taught me like, nope, that's that's not how we do things, Needine. You gotta listen. I'm like, okay. I'm just letting it go.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

Just another peel of that onion of that, you know, that healing. That's what I feel like we are, is these great big onions, and they just peel off another layer and another layer, and we get a little exposed, and we're like, ow. And then every once in a while it's like, ooh, that felt good. And then sometimes, ow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:02

Exactly. I was like, oh, that was like a slap in the face. Like, thanks.

SPEAKER_01 28:07

Hey. Oh, shoot. But I know we were talking at the fair uh at Sand Springs, because Nadine always does the Sand Springs fairs too. Yeah. And but she's expanding. She's doing McAllister and Oklahoma City and stuff, so yay. Um, but anyways, you were talking about expanding uh and doing energy work or something. I can't remember exactly what. Can you refresh my memory?

SPEAKER_05 28:36

Yes. So I want to start doing more energy work, and I realize that I've been doing it this whole time, and I'm like, I should be doing this for people. Um, especially because I've been told that my hugs are very grounding, and like I bring people back in and I can feel it, you know. Spirit will tell me like to hug them a certain way, and it's like I can feel them coming back into their body. Um, their soul coming back into their body, because you know, a lot of with day-to-day lives or the type of sign where our we're like our body's here, but our spirit is like way up here.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

So Right. I had a Hawaiian um couple, well, they were Hawaiian healers, and he would always talk about how um if we're in any kind of pain, like our bodies in pain, we have a tendency to go up and float up into the ethers. We're we're down here, you know, physically doing stuff, but we're not we're not grounded and we're not here. Or if we're going through a traumatic thing or you any of that kind of stuff. So I can see that. I could see you giving the hug, because that's what he would do too. So that's interesting.

SPEAKER_05 29:48

Yes, and it was funny because the one lady I did when we were at this last event in Sand Springs, um, one lady she came and you could tell she was like she looked really frantic, is like the best way I can explain it. And so I started talking to her and then she started crying because you she was going through some stuff, and I was like, Can I give you a hug? So I gave her a hug and she was like, I don't know what you just did there. She goes, I've not felt this uh grounded in a long time. I said, I know. If I could do it told me to do that, so I said I hope it's not weird, you know. Right. Um but it's I've kept in communication with her and actually I'll be seeing her um next week and she'll be coming in, and that's gonna be like my first actual appointment that I'm gonna be doing some uh healing on her, some energy work.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Oh, awesome.

SPEAKER_05 30:47

So I'm I'm really excited because I know Spirit keeps telling me you need to buy that, you know, um massage chair so you can do Reiki or do whatever energy work we're telling you to do. Because I've done it on a few people and it's crazy how they've taken me through like one lady I did on hers, and they took me through different lifetimes of hers and to set her free because her spirit was trapped in different ones. And it was crazy because the one that like I remember the most is like being out in the desert, and she was in this middle thing, and there was fire coming up and around, and they had me walk through the fire and get her and then take her to the river to let her go. So I was like, oh, okay, like so, but then they showed me another one and then another, and I was like, okay, so I was just releasing her soul that was like stuck in those different lifetimes. So I was like, okay, spirit, I'm I'm just gonna do what you're telling me to do. I was planning on something different, but I was like, that did not happen at all.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

I yeah, I find that spirit will lead us exactly where we're supposed to with clients or classes or or anything because everything we do is spiritual. And so I'm so happy to hear that you just listen, even though you had something in your brain that you were gonna do, and then they were like, no, swerve. We're gonna do this instead. And you have to learn how to swerve. Yeah, like I have a women's retreat coming up, and I'm like, okay, this is a tentative schedule because um more than likely spirit's gonna be like, swerve and do this instead.

SPEAKER_05 32:44

That's not what you're supposed to be doing. We're gonna do this instead, and it it's crazy because it's like because it's what they need, right?

SPEAKER_01 32:52

And you they they may not not even realize it until spirit comes through you, and then they go, Oh my god, I didn't even realize I needed that release or that nudge or whatever it is that you're able to give them.

SPEAKER_05 33:06

Exactly. And that I mean that makes me feel really good, but it's it's it's a it's a great experience too going through the different things and understanding, you know, um that we all have different lifetimes that we've been through. Right. I believe in 100% after s seeing it. Well, not physically seeing it, but they show me like my eyes are covered with like film and I can see without seeing, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

Right. Yeah, it it's a psychic scene and everything then. Yes, right, yes, yeah. I always um kind of it's almost like you have your eyes open. To me, it's like having my eyes open, but there's like a movie playing in the background that I'm able to watch.

SPEAKER_05 33:50

Yes, yeah, yes, yes. That that's a good way to put it too. Because I was like, it's weird because it's like if I were a blind person and they have like that coating over their eye, uh-huh, but I can still see everything that I'm doing and like what I'm walking through, but it's not where I'm currently physically at.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

Right.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

So I'm like, But it almost feels like whenever you're doing that, it's not just a psychic scene, it is uh it's it's like a portal that you're going through. Yes. Like a portal of time. Because I know we're doing I I actually did a podcast a few podcasts ago by the time this one actually airs, uh, about timeline shifts and how the timeline shifts are uh a part of our past lives as well.

SPEAKER_05 34:42

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 34:43

Yeah. So that's what it seems like you're doing is you're portaling in because um yeah, because otherwise you wouldn't be able to release that energy, right?

SPEAKER_05 34:54

Exactly. And it's it's crazy that you say that because I had a um a Reiki clearing or um a tracker clearing like a while ago, and the guy was like, You jump portals at night to help people either stay where they're at or move to like the 5D or wherever they need to go. Um because of in the dreams that I would have, it was like I was always protecting people. And um, which I was like, it's weird because I would wake up with all these bruising and I'm like, I know I didn't hurt myself. There was one dream that I had and it was it was crazy because it was like I was on this mountain and this I don't know, it was kind of like um some type of figure, kind of like um sashquat. Um but it was after these people. So I had these people go hide in this little part of the mountain that was like for them to be safe. Well, the avalanche started coming, the guy the thing showed up, stepped on my foot, or either the snow, I don't remember, came down and my foot, like I hurt my foot in the dream. Well, I woke up and I couldn't walk on my foot.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_05 36:20

And it was it was bruised. And he was like, he gave me some pointers of like, make sure you keep these crystals around your bed, you know, make sure you ask for certain people to come in and like help keep you protected while you're while you're asleep.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

Yes, I do that because I travel at night and um what I'm doing or what I was doing, uh at different times I do different things, but there for a little bit, I was going to different places where I was clearing out super negative energy and negative entities that were tied to like earthbound here, right? And um, and they were very intense, and I knew that it was really happening, right? But because of that, my guides were like, you have got to make sure and set boundaries before you go to sleep at night. So I always ask for certain angels and and beings to travel with me whenever I'm doing any kind of portal hopping when I'm asleep because we're being drawn there. It's not like it's not like a conscious uh decision that we're making. You know, some people go, okay, I consciously am going to sleep and I want to connect with XYZ, right? That's not what we're doing. Where our souls are going places to do stuff that we're supposed to do while we're asleep and going through these portals and places and everything. So yeah, I'm so glad that he gave you that information of different crystals. I even like at one time they had me put selenite, a sort of selenite, in between my mattresses because they said that would cut off the energy when I came back into my body.

SPEAKER_05 38:10

That's I sleep with a selenite egg and a labdarite in my pillow.

SPEAKER_01 38:15

There you go. Yes. Yes, yeah, because that selenite will clear out the because we don't want to bring it home, right? No, I mean I know we cleared it out, but at the same time, there's residual energy, and I don't want to bring any residual energy into my house.

SPEAKER_05 38:31

Yeah, same song. Like I I don't want to bring any of that home because like I'll wake up some of the days and I'm like sweating, I'm like, oh my gosh, like that was that was intense, you know. Or when you're doing energy work on people, I'm like, oh, that was that was intense. Because I've taken things off of people too. I could physically see where they're showing me like um where things are on people. And I'm like, okay, well, I'll take that off.

SPEAKER_04 38:58

Right.

SPEAKER_05 38:58

And you know, give it to Mother Nature to clear out.

SPEAKER_04 39:02

Right.

SPEAKER_05 39:02

Um but it's like still you don't want anything to linger on you because that energy I've learned will bring you down, will make you sick, uh will will try to keep you down from what you're supposed to be doing because the more people we can bring to the light, to you know, the the spiritual side, the more awake we become and understand what we're going through, you know.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

Exactly. So yeah, exactly. And and I like you said, give you the the physical symptoms of being like really tired, lethargic, headaches, um, all kinds of stuff. It can make you feel like you have the flu, um, all kinds of things. And I'm a physical medium, which means that whenever I work on somebody, I will feel pain in my body if they have pain in theirs. Or I'm the same. Oh yeah. Yeah, that's lots of fun, isn't it? Or if somebody like I was doing um I was doing a ghost hunt. I don't do those really anymore. Um I was doing this one place and there was a guy there that um didn't know till after the investigation, but I was like, oh my god, my my back hurts. Oh it hurts so bad. And I knew it was coming from him. I was like, I don't know what he did. And well, they looked it up later on. He had been run over and he broke his back. And I was like, oh, I had other people that, you know, oh, well, who are you connected with that had a lot of stomach problems? Oh, well, it was so and so, and they had like, you know, cancer of the stomach. And you know what I mean? I'm like, Yeah, let's not do that anymore.

SPEAKER_05 40:55

I understand that completely. Because I did the last time I did a live, um, I I felt that and I was like, oh, who has shoulder pain like right here? Like, what what is going on? I was like, that hurts. And they're like, Yeah, sorry about that.

SPEAKER_01 41:10

And I was like, But as soon as you get it, what I have learned is if this isn't mine, I give it back with love and light because it's not ours to carry.

SPEAKER_00 41:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:19

So I always try to make sure and do that, especially if I'm like, I I I'm pretty good at setting the boundaries when I'm in crowds, obviously, because of the fares and stuff. But still, I will have somebody, I had somebody that walked up to my booth in Fort Smith, and I was like, um, we got some heart problems, don't we? And he said yes, and he wouldn't expand. And I was like, This isn't mine, I give it back. But it was crazy because it was so strong with him that it kept floating back to me again, and it took me a little while to clear that energy out. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:58

Yeah, so there's even items that people like give to you too. Like, I've had this purse for a while, um, but I ended up having to burn because of the energy that was tied to it was really not good energy. And I was like, oh man, like what is going on? My house was so chaotic there for a while. And I was like, what is it? And then Spirit was like, Oh, it's the purse, and I'm like, okay. So I took it out the house, everything cleared. And then where I brought it at the time, things started going chaotic. So I was like, Okay, well, I just need to burn it.

SPEAKER_00 42:32

Right.

SPEAKER_05 42:33

So I started releasing that energy, and it's it's sometimes it's hard to like fully release it because like when we're going day to day, like sometimes we forget, like it's not just physically, it's spiritually that what is either on us or dragging at us can cause the physical symptoms, and we get so caught up sometimes in the moment of what we're doing that we forget to do our clearings or make sure we stay in, you know, tune with ourselves and not doubt our intuition.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

Right, exactly. Yeah, and that's a good lesson about stuff that's used. I know in antique stores, uh, I haven't come I haven't gone into an antique store that didn't have something attached to it. Every single one of them. And I just walk in and I go, Hey, I will say hi, and you guys can talk to me if you want to, but you gotta stay here with whatever you're attached to because I'm not taking you home. Sorry. No riders.

SPEAKER_05 43:39

No, thank you. Yeah, right. Entering a space, and that's like um, I just recently moved in with my my boyfriend, and he's got two. I want to say there was a third one in here, but she's gone. And um the guy would just watch over me so much, and I'm like, listen, I Said, we can uh I can make you a little alter on my space. I can, you know, do some things for you. I said, but you cannot hover over me. I said, you cannot be scaring the kids. You can't be doing all this. I'm not here to kick you out of your space. We can either coinsist or else we can go different routes.

SPEAKER_04 44:20

Right.

SPEAKER_05 44:21

You know, so now like I feel like everything is more mellow. Like I can hear him from time to time. I hear him walking up the stairs because that's his favorite thing to do.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

And uh what is it about the stairs? It's always the stairs. Stairs and hallways. I would hear people going up and down the hallway when I was a kid, like all night long. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05 44:43

Yes, yes, it was funny because one of the nights um we came and stayed over here because my power was out at my apartment. And I got up thinking, like, I was like, what are these kids doing? They're going in and out of the bathroom, the lights turning on and off, like consistently. Well, I go to walk out there, and my oldest is awake on the couch, and she was like, You could tell she was terrified. She was like, She was like, We've all been sleeping, mom. Was that you? And I'm like, no, that wasn't so I set some firm boundaries with him and I, you know, gave him some moonshine because that was like his favorite thing to drink. I found out. So I put that on the filter for him and set him a little space and just told him, like, hey, you know, I'm not here to take over your space, but I would like to coexist with one another.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

Right. You know. Well, gosh, we've been on here for a little bit, so we probably I mean, I could sit on here and talk about all kinds of experiences and and have and swap stories all day long because I enjoyed this kind of talk so much. But and we'll have to do it again. We'll have to get on again and talk about some more experiences because I'm sure we'll have them, you know, over this next year. Um, so anyways, is there anything that you would like listeners to know about you or your products or anything that we haven't mentioned so far?

SPEAKER_05 46:10

Um, just know that like even though I make the products I do, like um I'm always here for people. Like if you need a listening ear, like send me a message or you know, call me if you have my number. Like I don't want anybody to feel alone. And just know that people that you all are enough just as you are, and we're all going through our healing. Um just so you know, people are not alone. I think that's my biggest thing is just just that, you know. I make what I do to help others. Um it's not always about the money or selling, it's it's about the connections that you make with people. So even if you don't find something interesting, come say hi. Come come talk to me wherever you see me. Um I'm not that type of person, you know. Like I love the connections more than anything.

SPEAKER_01 47:06

Yeah, I love the connections that we get to have with people with the work that we do and everything. It's it's something that just really, oh no, it just makes your heart expand. It makes you feel really great to have this kind of community that that's coming together and supporting each other and everything. It's really awesome.

SPEAKER_05 47:26

Exactly. And it's it's more about that than anything else. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 47:32

Alrighty. Well, guys, thank you so much for sharing your time and energy with us today. You can see all the fairs Nadine will be on will be at uh on the gypsysofare.com website under the holistic hub tab. We have our annual fair in my hometown of McAllister coming up August 29th and 30th at the Southeast Expo. You can see all the classes for the upcoming fairs on gypsy soulfare.com. Make sure and become a member on there and you can favorite the classes. Um, I think it will give you an update on those classes and when they're coming up as well if you become a member. Also, if you enjoyed today's podcast and feel called to support the show, you can find the link for buy me a coffee in the show notes. Your generosity is very much appreciated and it helps me to keep this podcast going. Until next time, I wish you a day full of joy, love, light, and peace guided by spirit. See you next time.